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Feb. 15th, 2011

So obviously most of the time I make a pretty good stereotype: I'm a librarian who knits! also I'm single & live with a cat! but today, while laying on the couch, wearing a red dress, reading romance novels* and eating fancy chocolates i started to wonder:
what's the difference between a stereotype & a cliche?

*clare brings home the mills & boons that people donate to the library, but the library won't keep because, i believe, the sexytimes are too graphic.** then we read out the good bits to unsuspecting guests***. it's a thing. For the times when we don't have a good passage prepared, there is always "the romance writers' phrasebook": truly and honestly a collection of sentences to go in romance novels. arranged by topic****.

**as a fanfic reader, not so much.

***HI CAITLIN!

****I actually can't find our copy right now, but I do recall one of the topics was color: lists of all the various synonyms for different colours. Including (as a heading) both "white" and "off-white".

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toley_elf
Feb. 15th, 2011 08:49 pm (UTC)
being a cliche sounds hellafun ;)

btw i have a friend who is thinking of being a librarian. do you have any advice for her other than 'don't it's hard to find a job/'
celuran
Feb. 16th, 2011 12:05 am (UTC)
well actually...
look, there's not heaps of jobs (but if it helps, there are a lot of fairly elderly librarians who are due to retire soon!). Most of my friends have gotten jobs within, say, four months?

It's a lot more customer service than the cliche suggests; it's not a career for the antisocial.

Is your friend in Melbourne, and if so, would xie rather study online or in person? I have a hard time recommending RMIT University's Graduate Diploma Information Management; the good lecturers have moved on, and I didn't find studying under the people who are left particularly worthwhile. Monash have the only other course in Melbourne; apparently it's fairly database heavy, but a decent course. If distance learning is an option (or your friend is in Perth) I hear good things about Curtain University.

If your friend is interested in being a teacher librarian, get the teaching qualification first, and then the librarianship after. There's a lot more opportunity that way.

Here are some possibly useful links: ALIA is the professional association for Librarians and Information workers and they have a lot of information as to courses, qualifications and salaries.

Destinationlibrary has a bunch of info about being a librarian in Australia too.
saikogrrl
Feb. 16th, 2011 02:43 am (UTC)
Re: well actually...
It's me toley was asking for - thanks for all the great advice! :)

I'm already with you on some of the things - the RMIT one turned me off because it's called "business" something. I'm very interested in the distance ones, because it would allow me to fit study around work as needed, and a family friend did the wagga (CSU) one.

I am interested in working in a school library, buuuuut don't know that I want to be a teacher librarian to the extent that I would actually have to teach classes outside the library. I think to be a librarian and not just a technician you have to have a dip ed (to be supervising children, legalities etc), which is a small stumbling block right now.

I dunno. I'm kind of in the middle of a career crisis after completing an Editing course for book publishing. I am still interested in actual editing of people's work, but not so much the office job and other marketing bull that comes with it. I am more of a people person and I liked what you said about it being a social job!

Aaaanyway end rambling. Maybe one day I will work in a library and also do some freelance editing, once I figure out the education side of it...

then we read out the good bits to unsuspecting guests
Ahahahahahahha, best pastime ever.
celuran
Feb. 16th, 2011 03:18 am (UTC)
Re: well actually...
Hey no, I'm not a teacher librarian. You need to have a working with children card, sure, but you need that for public libraries too, and your workplace should pay for it. legally i don't actually supervise the students (although I am sometimes the only adult in a room, they are being supervised by the coordinator, who is in the same building if not the same room). If you're a teacher, you get paid more, but you also have to do yard duty.

Also, hey! I resemble that entirely. straight after school i did professional writing and editing; it was after not finding work in editing that i started the library qual!

I was slightly disgusted at myself when i noticed i was in the business faculty. But in all fairness, the business thing kind of makes sense. Librarianship is kinda hard to categorise if you don't have an education faculty or a dedicated information faculty. I went to RMIT because I wanted to do it person (distance learning doesn't work too well for me, I need more external motivation) and RMIT said upfront it costs this much per semester. Which is what i wanted to know. CSU is pretty good, very supportive of distance learners - i dropped out only becuase I am crap.

My serious advice is: you need to get some (volunteer if necessary) experience as the customer service person in a public library or similar. I got a casual position at Dandenong Library at the beginning of my last semester at uni; i don't think i would have gotten so much as an interview without it.
toley_elf
Feb. 16th, 2011 03:18 am (UTC)
Re: well actually...
yay! thankyou. Obviously she found it ok and it was useful :)
thomasbull
Mar. 13th, 2011 07:47 am (UTC)
Re: well actually...
I hear good things about Curtain University

You may have misheard the name of the place; it's "Curtin".
lisanaterel
Feb. 15th, 2011 09:30 pm (UTC)
Ha, that book looks terrible. Also, amusing.
celuran
Feb. 16th, 2011 12:08 am (UTC)
you should come over for dinner and also terrible prose sometime!
lisanaterel
Feb. 16th, 2011 03:22 am (UTC)
That sounds lovely!
celuran
Feb. 16th, 2011 06:00 am (UTC)
whenever you'd like! except mondays, this term. i am learning dutch then.
(we could even have roast beast)
lisanaterel
Feb. 16th, 2011 10:13 pm (UTC)
Ooh, Dutch!

I tend to be busy on every Wednesday and every second Tuesday, so maybe a Thursday, Friday or weekend would be best.

I shall bring something. I could make chocolate ripple cake? I'm not as good at cooking up wonderful treats as you are, but I can manage a chocolate ripple cake. Or biscuits. Or banana-and-pecan muffins. (and that's about all.)

celuran
Feb. 16th, 2011 11:14 pm (UTC)
perhaps this sunday? will check with clare.
derigueur
Feb. 15th, 2011 11:11 pm (UTC)
Yay!

I used to assail unsuspecting guests with passages from the original Monstrous Manual for Dungeons & Dragons, thus probably making me a gamer stereotype.

My favourite passage was "Lambs are non-combatant"
celuran
Feb. 16th, 2011 12:08 am (UTC)
actually lately clare has been watching hoarders and quoting the good bits. By "good bits" i mean, of course,
"We can get rid of the faecal matter - and she's not sentimentally attached to that, she doesn't feel like she needs to keep it."

however i am glad to know lambs are non-combatant. i mean it's not like they have any defenses or weapons so it'd be rude to start a war with them.
derigueur
Feb. 16th, 2011 12:18 am (UTC)
O.o

I helped a compulsive hoarder move house once. It was a unique experience I hope never to have again. How does someone get to the point where they're keeping four large boxes of mouldy, cat-urine soaked homemaker mags in case someone, someday, wants them for the recipes? Yeesh! But no, you can't throw them out because a) there will be tears and b) somewhere in the bottom of that box might be something actually valuable, like a gold and pearl necklace! (I jest not: I unpacked one box to prove the contents worthless and discovered said necklace wedged in amongst the crusty dregs...you can't win with these people!)

I now wish to declare war on Lambs, just to see what they will do in response :P
dcrisp
Feb. 16th, 2011 01:32 am (UTC)
My response to this kind of moving is : I am a mover, I'm here to help you move because you cant do it on your own. you asked me. If we continue I'm in charge of moving. Moves have gone successfull. Valuable stuff has been moved and junk has been binned.

Mind you, I never moved hoarder. just a regular every day book worm.
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